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		<title>Comment on Increasing visibility by Simon Kendrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Kendrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments chaps. My first two proper jobs to date - large research agency and media owner - had pretty similar cultures where a wide knowledge/interest was theoretically useful, but realistically didn&#039;t need to go beyond reading MediaGuardian and Brand Republic. 

It is a bit different here, but not to the same extent as the media agencies where I envisage (having never been in agencies for any longer than 90 minute meetings) a much wider bank of influences is more actively encouraged. Presumably, this helped &quot;light a fire&quot; in the plannersphere

In terms of planning at research agencies, Tom is probably the best example of a person I know doing something similar (my first agency had a couple of similar people attempting it, but they weren&#039;t as active online outside of project work). Certainly something for me to aspire to, but more difficult when you only have a dozen people around you working flat out :) 

Can other departments catch up with planning? I&#039;m slightly sceptical as that collaborative, playful environment isn&#039;t as naturally suited, but hopefully pockets can emerge

All the best
Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments chaps. My first two proper jobs to date &#8211; large research agency and media owner &#8211; had pretty similar cultures where a wide knowledge/interest was theoretically useful, but realistically didn&#8217;t need to go beyond reading MediaGuardian and Brand Republic. </p>
<p>It is a bit different here, but not to the same extent as the media agencies where I envisage (having never been in agencies for any longer than 90 minute meetings) a much wider bank of influences is more actively encouraged. Presumably, this helped &#8220;light a fire&#8221; in the plannersphere</p>
<p>In terms of planning at research agencies, Tom is probably the best example of a person I know doing something similar (my first agency had a couple of similar people attempting it, but they weren&#8217;t as active online outside of project work). Certainly something for me to aspire to, but more difficult when you only have a dozen people around you working flat out <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Can other departments catch up with planning? I&#8217;m slightly sceptical as that collaborative, playful environment isn&#8217;t as naturally suited, but hopefully pockets can emerge</p>
<p>All the best<br />
Simon</p>
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		<title>Comment on Increasing visibility by john v willshire</title>
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		<dc:creator>john v willshire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As suspected, Simon, I LOVE the picture...

And more importantly, I love the post too.  Planner/Researcher crossover is high; my first media job was in the media research department at BJM (long since rolled into TNS), and it provided me with an invaluable grounding in thinking about people.

And to Neil&#039;s point about media owners, I spent three and a half years in the &#039;planning &amp; insight&#039; department at Viacom (now CBS) Outdoor.  So I&#039;ve got a decent understanding of the cultural differences between those places.

In addition to your points above (which I very much agree with), I wonder if there&#039;s something about the space that already exists in a planning function at an agency (read &amp; think about &amp; create things) that doesn&#039;t necessarily exist in the majority of either research agencies or media owners... 

...and it&#039;s a space where blogging acts as a marvellous foil to the job.  But if you were the MD of a company and someone asked for more time to think about things, the write about them where the competition can pick up everything for free... creating that space in companies where it doesn&#039;t already exist is hard I think.

But what we might see, increasingly, is more people like yourself, Tom (and Neil on the media owner side) start to write and contribute to blogs &#039;without permission&#039; from the folks who run the companies they work for.  

So maybe &#039;Planning&#039; got there first because the space/culture was there already.  I&#039;d have thought other divisions and businesses in the marketing sphere will start to catch up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As suspected, Simon, I LOVE the picture&#8230;</p>
<p>And more importantly, I love the post too.  Planner/Researcher crossover is high; my first media job was in the media research department at BJM (long since rolled into TNS), and it provided me with an invaluable grounding in thinking about people.</p>
<p>And to Neil&#8217;s point about media owners, I spent three and a half years in the &#8216;planning &amp; insight&#8217; department at Viacom (now CBS) Outdoor.  So I&#8217;ve got a decent understanding of the cultural differences between those places.</p>
<p>In addition to your points above (which I very much agree with), I wonder if there&#8217;s something about the space that already exists in a planning function at an agency (read &amp; think about &amp; create things) that doesn&#8217;t necessarily exist in the majority of either research agencies or media owners&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8230;and it&#8217;s a space where blogging acts as a marvellous foil to the job.  But if you were the MD of a company and someone asked for more time to think about things, the write about them where the competition can pick up everything for free&#8230; creating that space in companies where it doesn&#8217;t already exist is hard I think.</p>
<p>But what we might see, increasingly, is more people like yourself, Tom (and Neil on the media owner side) start to write and contribute to blogs &#8216;without permission&#8217; from the folks who run the companies they work for.  </p>
<p>So maybe &#8216;Planning&#8217; got there first because the space/culture was there already.  I&#8217;d have thought other divisions and businesses in the marketing sphere will start to catch up&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Increasing visibility by neilperkin</title>
		<link>http://curiouslypersistent.wordpress.com/2009/12/21/increasing-visibility/#comment-1354</link>
		<dc:creator>neilperkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve often similarly pondered the lack of media owner bloggers out there (comparatively) but you&#039;ve captured some good points here. Your posts are always well thought through and intelligently written so looking forward to some more thought provoking posts in 2010. Have a great festive season Simon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve often similarly pondered the lack of media owner bloggers out there (comparatively) but you&#8217;ve captured some good points here. Your posts are always well thought through and intelligently written so looking forward to some more thought provoking posts in 2010. Have a great festive season Simon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Increasing visibility by Tom</title>
		<link>http://curiouslypersistent.wordpress.com/2009/12/21/increasing-visibility/#comment-1352</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There have been flickers, I think - the outsourcing debate could have gone somewhere; Ray P&#039;s been doing his best to push along a conversation...  but yeah, you&#039;re right and you&#039;re right about the reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been flickers, I think &#8211; the outsourcing debate could have gone somewhere; Ray P&#8217;s been doing his best to push along a conversation&#8230;  but yeah, you&#8217;re right and you&#8217;re right about the reasons.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game by Simon Kendrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Kendrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers Rob. I hope you haven&#039;t yet met any brand managers who judge the success of their online campaigns by the number of Twitter &quot;followers&quot;. Have a good one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers Rob. I hope you haven&#8217;t yet met any brand managers who judge the success of their online campaigns by the number of Twitter &#8220;followers&#8221;. Have a good one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game by Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, great book, great point ...

It never fails to amaze me how many companies measure the wrong elements to judge success. What is even scarier is how many of them don&#039;t realise that the &#039;success&#039; they are claiming is nothing more than ego-fodder.

I just had a situation where a multinational invited us in for &#039;a chat&#039; and it became immediately apparent that the reason why they were not achiveing the goals they sought was because they weren&#039;t tracking the metrics that actually mattered - and if I could see that, then that&#039;s even more worrying because I&#039;m hardly Mr Astute Brand Manager.

Anyway, all the best and here&#039;s to a great 2010 for all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, great book, great point &#8230;</p>
<p>It never fails to amaze me how many companies measure the wrong elements to judge success. What is even scarier is how many of them don&#8217;t realise that the &#8217;success&#8217; they are claiming is nothing more than ego-fodder.</p>
<p>I just had a situation where a multinational invited us in for &#8216;a chat&#8217; and it became immediately apparent that the reason why they were not achiveing the goals they sought was because they weren&#8217;t tracking the metrics that actually mattered &#8211; and if I could see that, then that&#8217;s even more worrying because I&#8217;m hardly Mr Astute Brand Manager.</p>
<p>Anyway, all the best and here&#8217;s to a great 2010 for all of us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game by Will</title>
		<link>http://curiouslypersistent.wordpress.com/2009/12/14/moneyball-the-art-of-winning-an-unfair-game/#comment-1348</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is utterly, utterly brilliant. Best &#039;planning&#039; book i&#039;ve ever read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is utterly, utterly brilliant. Best &#8216;planning&#8217; book i&#8217;ve ever read.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My five fives of 2009 by Simon Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://curiouslypersistent.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/my-five-fives-of-2009/#comment-1346</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Kendrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great. I should also point out that I overlooked Telepathe&#039;s Dance Mother, which is possibly my favourite album of the year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great. I should also point out that I overlooked Telepathe&#8217;s Dance Mother, which is possibly my favourite album of the year!</p>
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		<title>Comment on My five fives of 2009 by alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blush! Thank you that is very nice :D I like 1,2,3 of your music list so I will check out 4 and 5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blush! Thank you that is very nice <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  I like 1,2,3 of your music list so I will check out 4 and 5.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Satisfaction at Sam Smith&#8217;s by Jewell Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jewell Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love reading your website but I have been using my PDA to surf the web more.  Do you have a mobile specific version of your site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love reading your website but I have been using my PDA to surf the web more.  Do you have a mobile specific version of your site?</p>
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